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#1 2011-02-19 09:51:47

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Flash Player Advertising

Hi,

I'm going to describe my goals here in implemented the Flash Player Advertising feature. Basically there will be 3 methods for player advertising:

* image advertising - will appear in the middle area of the player screen (you will be able to set width/height, margin from top/bottom and other properties directly from the administration panel)
* text advertising - will appear in the bottom area of the player screen (same as above, you will be able to configure properties from the administration panel)
* video advertising - video will be played (controls will be disabled, user will be forced to watch the entire advertising video)

I want to be able to enable the above methods on: start, pause, cuepoint, end (when the player starts, when a user clicks on pause, on a specified cuepoint, when the player ends).

What i have until now (the image is just a example):
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The advertising is global now (meaning: for all videos). Do you think there should be a method to set specific advertising to specific videos and/or to specific video categories (might
even extend to videos owned by a specific user).

There are limitations, which i dont know how to bypass at this point. For example, you cant have html/javascript advertising, you need to add a image in admin and then the advertising will be created for you, or for text advertising you will need to enter a few properties, like link, description, title...

At this point this will be done with javascript, however i might create a plugin at some point. There are advertising companies that already offer
advertising for flowplayer: http://help.adxpansion.com/faq/content/ … layer.html

Please let me know what you think or if you have any ideas/requests.


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#2 2011-02-19 10:37:21

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Re: Flash Player Advertising

Wow. Good job, Adrian!

My Suggestions:

PLEASE make it per Video Advertising:

Example:

In the Advertising Section of the Admin Panel there are two Menus: OVERLAY in Player and TEXT in Player:
There you can add the Name/Html whatever needed and the existing Sponsor.

Basically it means, that you add the code for the advertisement and bind an Sponsor for the Ad. I think that should work the same as with the below player Banners.

Sure, a Finetuning can be done, let's say Ads per Category and so on, but in my üpinion it's vital to have the In Player Ads assigned like the Sponsor ads below the player.


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#3 2011-02-19 11:08:52

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Re: Flash Player Advertising

Good point. I will add a new button to video manage to add per video, also there should be a per sponsor, per user. First i need to make it work
correctly. I'm at the media advertising (play another video, disable controls, redirect on click....).


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#4 2011-02-19 12:17:57

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Re: Flash Player Advertising

Another idea, if you do the per sponsor create a separate admin section where you can disable and enable videos for each sponsor.
Ex. fastcash sponsor and than have a drop down box with all the videos assigned to it, I think you can loose track easily if you start assigning videos and you have no idea what's what.
Just an idea.

Sava

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#5 2011-02-19 14:28:33

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Re: Flash Player Advertising

Great job Adrian!!

I love the idea of per video and per category advertising. Looking forward to this feature

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#6 2011-02-19 15:25:03

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Re: Flash Player Advertising

The idea with the dropdown box, will not work correctly if you have 1000 videos for example. I think, the best way to do this is to create a page similar to the video manage page, but navigate by sponsor. From the Sponsor Manage page, you will be able to click on the View Videos icon and from there remove the videos from the sponsor. What do you think?


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#7 2011-02-19 15:53:31

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Re: Flash Player Advertising

This sounds like the best way to get this to work. Great idea

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#8 2011-02-20 07:58:31

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Re: Flash Player Advertising

For the video advertising (pre-roll, mid-roll, post-roll) should the viewer be redirected to the url if he clicks on any place in the flash player or there also should be a image attached somewhere in the player and only if the user clicks on the image he/she will be redirected?


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#9 2011-02-20 12:17:29

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Re: Flash Player Advertising

Hmm....is video advertising meant to have the click function? Or just show a video advertisement?


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#10 2011-02-20 12:21:41

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Re: Flash Player Advertising

Do you mean a Advertising Clip before the main Video ?

Yes this should be clickable. I think it's more comfortable than typing an url into the Browser smile

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#11 2011-02-20 14:01:50

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Re: Flash Player Advertising

Yeah...figured that out (i didnt know how to make the video clickable, but it works correctly now). Basically after testing all posibilities (from the programming and usability point of view) here's what i have until now:
- over the flash player you can have text or image ads (these ads can appear at any time you want, basically you specify after how many secons the ads should appear)
- video advertising (clickable) (also can be set to appear anytime you want, the over the player ads will be disabled when the video advertising starts).


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#12 2011-02-20 17:16:17

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Re: Flash Player Advertising

Basically the advertising will be processed in the following order:
* per video advertising (if a specific advertising is set to this video display it and exit)
* per user advertising (if a specific advertising is set to the user that owns this video, display it and exit) (useful if you have webmasters uploading videos for you, this seems to be a feature a lot of clients ask for)
* per sponsor advertising (if the video is provided by a sponsor, display the sponsor advertising if set and exit)
* per category advertising (if a advertising is set to any of the categories the video is part of, display it and exit, first one will be displayed)
* global player advertising

The above complicates things, because there are 5 advertising methods and 3 advertising types (text, image and video). Should all 3 advertising methods have the above functionality, or only the image one? (i personally thing the image one is enough, text advertising can be set globally and video advertising the same).

Please tell me your opinion on how you want this to work. I think its a important feature that can bring a lot of revenue if built correctly.


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#13 2011-02-21 22:38:31

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Re: Flash Player Advertising

I agree with the one image being enough, and than globally assign the other 2.
One that I think you left out and it would be nice to have is assign advertising per pornstar. Lets say you make a deal with a pornstar website, like a cam website and they let you add all their videos and in return you add link and you can assign all video advertising on those videos to belong to that particular pornstar.
Rest of the ideas that you listed above are really great and I think it would bring us a-lot of revenue if used the right way.

Good job smile

The way this script is going soon you will have drive-through included smile (no phun intended)

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#14 2011-02-21 22:45:17

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Re: Flash Player Advertising

Ok. I will make it configurable from a config file in config/ folder (this folder contains a lot of configuration options that are to advanced to add in admin). For the pornstar, i think its a good idea, but if you have a sponsor (for example the cam website) and you assign a banner related to that website, its the same as the pornstar. Or should it be linked directly to the pornstars module?


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#15 2011-02-21 22:52:23

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Re: Flash Player Advertising

I think it should have both, lets say you add a cam site. They don't have just one model they can have many models, and you want to track which model pays better it would be a nice feature to have. Hypothetically speaking you could make deals with each model for better % or it could come in handy where lets say you're advertising a local stripclub and you have videos of each model but the stripclub has a main advertising sponsor set.
It could come in handy in this scenario. BTW I hope you thought about a tracking system for it too smile
It would be nice to have even if it's implemented at a later time.

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#16 2011-02-21 22:52:53

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Re: Flash Player Advertising

I don't know if it is good to make a preroll globally. I think you can't take a main video from one sponsor and add an advertisement from another smile I hope you understand what i try to say.

It's nearly the same if you built a car and put "porsche" on the back smile It's not a porsche.

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#17 2011-02-21 23:05:22

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Re: Flash Player Advertising

Coscast I agree in one way what you are saying but at the same time if you have no other ads assigned you can have a pool of ads where it can pull them, or even like blacklabel ads and they can preroll if no other ads are pre-set.

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#18 2011-02-21 23:30:45

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Re: Flash Player Advertising

Ok. So basically you have 1 text ad, 1 image ad (both overlay) and maximum 3 media (can be flv, swf, mp4, any image) instream ads for a video. For all the ads there will be per video, per sponsor, per user, per category and global (global is 1 text, 1 image and max 3 media). There will also be a configuration file where can disable user, category, video, sponsor if you dont want to use that for any of the ad types (for speed). Is this good?

For porntstars, if a pornstar is part of a video, display a ad, how about if there are 5 pornstars in the same video (lets say not all videos are about masturbation, there are also group sex :-)))))))


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#19 2011-02-21 23:31:29

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Re: Flash Player Advertising

Btw...i will probably upload a demo tomorrow for this, so if you have time i'll post the url here.


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#20 2011-02-21 23:36:46

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Re: Flash Player Advertising

I don't think it matters how many pornstars are in the video, I'm talking about like for specialized kind of pornstar videos that you want to set it on. You don't have to go through each video and do facial recognition and see what porstar is in each video. LOL
Although facial recognition would be nice to have j/k

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#21 2011-02-22 21:46:02

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Re: Flash Player Advertising

Not finished yet. Probably tomorrow.


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#22 2011-02-25 19:10:35

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Re: Flash Player Advertising

Finished this part:
http://www.scriptdevel.com/admin/index.php
username: admin
password: admin

If anyone wants to test (there are only 2 uploaded videos, the rest are embedded (i tested the embedded grabers at the same time)).

I'll start working on the rss video feeds importing starting with tomorrow.


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#23 2011-02-26 10:00:14

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Re: Flash Player Advertising

Advantages gained with this addon:
* flash player advertising for the site (text advertising, image advertising and media advertising (can be image, swf, flv, mp4). All work with per video, per sponsor, per category. You can have 1 text adv, 1 image adv and 3 media (pre-roll, mid-roll and post-roll) ads for each video.
* flash player advertising for the player embedded from your site by other webmasters (only media advertising works here, but its pretty good, also clicking on the player window will redirect the visitor back to your site)

I will write a howto in the future in the Troubleshooting category on the forum once rc1 is released.


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#24 2011-02-26 13:33:34

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Re: Flash Player Advertising

Thank you.

Just played a little bit around.
Very nice. I like the solution how to add video advertising to the sponsors. Just a click and it's done. It's always better to have a demo, because pictures say more than thousand words smile
So now i understand how it works and i like it smile


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