Bing and the end of the Tube Sites... Oh Crap!

Mitomind · 2013-03-25 23:06:12

I just read on an adult forum about Microsoft's Bing and Porn. Seems like there might be an end to the tube site business model.

1. Just go to Bing.com
2. Check on the videos link above the bing banner.
3. Click on the top right gear (in chrome) and turn the safe search off and save.
4. Enter some adult term in the search box and click search.
5. See tons of porn from all different sites.
6. Click on any video and see that the video is played in BING and doesn't direct to the tube site.

Crap. This might be a game changer.

Last edited by Mitomind (2013-03-25 23:06:47)

DuttyRock · 2013-03-26 03:08:33

And that's why you watermark your videos guess it's bad news for embedded video sites.

Mitomind · 2013-03-26 03:11:34

Watermarking a video isn't going to mean anything. Just because there is a watermark on the video doesn't mean the viewer is going to go to the site - if that's what you mean.

If the video are available for free and with no ads, people will start using bing instead of going to tube sites.

DuttyRock · 2013-03-26 03:23:20

What? it means everything, if the viewer like the video he or she is going to the source. Especially if it's niche.

If you get off on any random porn then yeah, Bings for them, if they like a niche or even the video itself then they will check the source.

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Mitomind · 2013-03-26 03:28:06

I respect your opinion, but disagree.

People want porn and they don't care where it comes from. If there is one source which has every possible video, the viewer will stay there. Thinking about it for a second, a tube site is just another source. If I find a video on Xtube site and it has reality kings as the watermark, I'm not rushing to reality kings for another video... I'm staying on the tube site to look for more videos. It's how the whole tube business started. If it wasn't for tubes, everyone would go to the original source, which they don't.

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DuttyRock · 2013-03-26 04:17:18

Well its a matter of opinion cuz im sure people have a preference the same way they do browsers, chat forums etc. Let me ask, whats the difference between xhamster, xvideo and redtube??? Nothing. They all have the same good quality porn and a lot of it, YET, people will just chose one and stay there. There are many torrents sites yet most people only go piratebay or kat... it's all about preference.

That's you, people run to realtyking in your example. Same reason why there are "affiliate programs" because people follow the source of what they like. If i see a video on ASP right now and it is watermark, the chances are this; 90% visit the watermark site an 10% still search ASP for more because i know EXACTLY where i can find more of the same vids from the watermark. If the link is a paid site, then i will return to ASP trying to find more free videos.

Mitomind · 2013-03-26 04:35:35

DuttyRock wrote:

Well its a matter of opinion cuz im sure people have a preference the same way they do browsers, chat forums etc. Let me ask, whats the difference between xhamster, xvideo and redtube??? Nothing. They all have the same good quality porn and a lot of it, YET, people will just chose one and stay there. There are many torrents sites yet most people only go piratebay or kat... it's all about preference.

True. And when they consider Bing is offering free videos from all sites without ads they will end up staying there... because it's free.

That's you, people run to realtyking in your example. Same reason why there are "affiliate programs" because people follow the source of what they like.

People go to affiliate links because they want to pay for premium porn. With all the free porn out their, they obviously make a choice to pay for porn.

If i see a video on ASP right now and it is watermark, the chances are this; 90% visit the watermark site an 10% still search ASP for more because i know EXACTLY where i can find more of the same vids from the watermark. If the link is a paid site, then i will return to ASP trying to find more free videos.

I've never visited a watermarked site unless it was a specific niche that the site I was on didn't cover and most of the tube sites have most of the niches covered.

Having a watermarked video for most of the common content in a mass search engine like the way Bing is doing it... and offering videos... will not make users go to the watermarked site. Though, having a watermark on the videos will give the viewer a chance to visit the site if the niche is so narrow that it would warrant visiting the watermarked site. So, bottom line, watermarking is a good thing but won't prevent someone from visiting Bing, viewing videos ad free and using Bing as their tube site for future viewing... thus putting the smaller general non-niche tube sites out of business.

DuttyRock · 2013-03-26 06:48:33

True. And when they consider Bing is offering free videos from all sites without ads they will end up staying there... because it's free.

All those tube sites are free. Ads is not bad on porn sites because they showing others offers you might want, meaning the ads relate to your interests.

People go to affiliate links because they want to pay for premium porn. With all the free porn out their, they obviously make a choice to pay for porn.

and that's my point, people want what they want, free or not it's what interest them (keep in mind we are talking about what "turns you on") and that's why i say they will follow watermark since they know what turn them on is on that other site.

I've never visited a watermarked site unless it was a specific niche that the site I was on didn't cover and most of the tube sites have most of the niches covered.
Having a watermarked video for most of the common content in a mass search engine like the way Bing is doing it... and offering videos... will not make users go to the watermarked site. Though, having a watermark on the videos will give the viewer a chance to visit the site if the niche is so narrow that it would warrant visiting the watermarked site. So, bottom line, watermarking is a good thing but won't prevent someone from visiting Bing, viewing videos ad free and using Bing as their tube site for future viewing... thus putting the smaller general non-niche tube sites out of business.

Well you seem to be one of those people that get turn on by any porn. i'm not, so if i see a hot video i want to find the source, the honeycomb hideout Lol.

Anyhow, im not saying people will not visit bing because everyone love free porn, im saying if someone watching a video on bing an see a hot video with a watermark, it's highly likely they will visit that site. im always down for watermark, let bing give you some free traffic Lol.

Mitomind · 2013-03-26 13:53:13

Well, I wouldn't say I get turned on by 'any' porn... just the porn with multiple blonds with big tits on ad free sites.

symtab · 2013-03-26 19:48:57

Man dont scare off my clients :-))))))) The tube model is booming ))))

Mitomind · 2013-03-26 20:03:07

I doubt it will effect sales. People who want to start a tube are going to do it regardless. I'm sure there are a lot of people who purchased ASP and make just enough money to cover the bills... they aren't raking in millions.

The original post which I read on gfy.com had more to do with the DMCAs for showing those videos on Bing. Where Google takes down most of the porn videos, Bing doesn't. Added, not many people use Bing for porn or Bing in general compared to Google it would take something like CNN running a story to really get people moving to Bing for Porn.

Then there is the tracking. People who want to hide their porn watching are more inclined to use a porn site vs. Bing. Their porn watching tracks will probably covered better on a tube site.

What does scare me is that Bing does offer no ads... which some people want. Browsing without those dam Live Jas popups. Bing also offers safe browsing. A viewer knows that they aren't going to get a virus using Bing.

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symtab · 2013-03-27 06:53:23

It was a joke. Sincerly until a few months ago, there were only a few clients that make money (and by making money i mean > 2-3k), however recently there are more (even after a few months only). Also a lot of clients buy more licenses after some time. I could give examples, but i'm pretty sure everyone wants to have their privacy respected.

I think the tube site model will work until the big tube sites start having problems. As long as sites like pornhub, tube8, xvideos....exist the tube site model will work. There are a lot of new sites (past 2-3 years) with alexa rank < 10k.

DuttyRock · 2013-03-27 07:35:08

Mitomind wrote:

Well, I wouldn't say I get turned on by 'any' porn... just the porn with multiple blonds with big tits on ad free sites.

You mean PAY sites? (sarcasm).

I think the tube site model will work until the big tube sites start having problems. As long as sites like pornhub, tube8, xvideos....exist the tube site model will work. There are a lot of new sites (past 2-3 years) with alexa rank < 10k.

That's how i feel and then only way to take those sites out is lawsuits. Bing can try to become a porn tube all they want, good for them.

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