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#1 2013-09-20 19:48:10

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Add fast forward thumbnails like xhamster.com

Has anyone done this or can we add this easily?   On xhamster.com when you play a video and you want to skip forward while playing the move it shows a little thumbnail of what the video looks like at that point.  What does everyone else think would it be a good idea?

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#2 2013-09-21 07:56:17

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Re: Add fast forward thumbnails like xhamster.com

Its a nice feature, but it can only be done if you modify the flash player.


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#3 2013-09-21 19:00:50

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Re: Add fast forward thumbnails like xhamster.com

No add ons that you know of?    Any idea how much it would cost to have an expert build a player?

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#4 2013-09-22 05:36:27

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Re: Add fast forward thumbnails like xhamster.com

There is a plugin for flowplayer that can do this, but its very complicated (i remember i had to config it for a client, but the plugin did not work as described on the website from where he bought it). Probably somewhere at 100$ or something similar.


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#5 2013-09-22 05:56:26

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Re: Add fast forward thumbnails like xhamster.com

What would you charge me to add this feature? If I paid for the plugin and you just added it?  Or are you too busy lately?

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#6 2013-09-22 15:15:02

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Re: Add fast forward thumbnails like xhamster.com

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you might be MUCH HAPPIER with NuevoPlayer's progress bar thumbs

they charge $50 or so (40 Euro) for professional instillation on their excellent player

demo at: http://www.nuevolab.com/slides

just slide your cursor along the video scroll bar when the video is playing

NuevoPlayer is 55 Euro purchase before the slider bar purchase (if you want them to professionally install the player on your site, it is an additional 20 Euro)


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#7 2013-09-22 18:44:44

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Re: Add fast forward thumbnails like xhamster.com

Yeah that is exactly what I want right there.  So they install it on your site and everything for around $50   Does it cause any problems with mobile videos or admin preview or anything?

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#8 2013-09-22 20:12:22

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Re: Add fast forward thumbnails like xhamster.com

xpornclub wrote:

Yeah that is exactly what I want right there.  So they install it on your site and everything for around $50   Does it cause any problems with mobile videos or admin preview or anything?

NO NO.... 55 EURO IS PLAYER AND + 40 EURO IS PLUGIN FOR THUMBS

95 euro is all that you want

95x1.3 = ~ 125$

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#9 2013-09-23 01:08:04

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Re: Add fast forward thumbnails like xhamster.com

I think im going to do that.  Its can use flash or html5 on the newest version.  Seems good to me.  Does anyone know what the mobile template they offer does ?

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#10 2013-09-24 17:29:30

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Re: Add fast forward thumbnails like xhamster.com

Check out my site now xpornclub.com   I added Nuevo player with that plugin.  What do you think?

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#11 2013-09-24 17:34:17

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Re: Add fast forward thumbnails like xhamster.com

Oh, and if anyone has an ipad can you test to see if it redirects you to mobile site?   Cause the player has the ability to use html5 or flash.  So the main site should work with apple products.    The problem im having, is it still does not work with my  Samsung Galaxys s4. No flash support and I guess does not like html 5 either.

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#12 2013-09-24 21:54:29

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Re: Add fast forward thumbnails like xhamster.com

xpornclub wrote:

Oh, and if anyone has an ipad can you test to see if it redirects you to mobile site?   Cause the player has the ability to use html5 or flash.  So the main site should work with apple products.    The problem im having, is it still does not work with my  Samsung Galaxys s4. No flash support and I guess does not like html 5 either.


you can install on S4 flash player my friend smile

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#13 2013-09-24 22:33:08

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Re: Add fast forward thumbnails like xhamster.com

I tried already and it says it does not support it.   Unless you know another way?

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#14 2013-09-25 07:22:33

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Re: Add fast forward thumbnails like xhamster.com

Isnt the site redirected to your mobile? for samsung and ipad?


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#15 2013-09-25 13:14:24

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Re: Add fast forward thumbnails like xhamster.com

xpornclub wrote:

I tried already and it says it does not support it.   Unless you know another way?

http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/ … sions.html

visit here from your phone and download

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_md3foVM58

Flash Player 11.1 for Android 4.0 (11.1.115.81)

will work perfectly smile wink

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#16 2013-09-25 17:57:03

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Re: Add fast forward thumbnails like xhamster.com

Well with the new neuvo player ipad is supported with html5 and so should most phones so I would not even needed mobile version but my phone for some reason, does not play the video in the desktop version.   I did add that flashplayer but needed a new browser for the phone and lots of stuff, most people will not do that.   

@Adrian I just updated the mobile file you sent me, and still the mobile videos are not working, when I click on a video it says, page cannot be found. Can you help me troubleshoot this issue?  I don't know what to do next to fix it.

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#17 2013-09-25 22:18:19

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Re: Add fast forward thumbnails like xhamster.com

To make use of html5 support with Nuevoplayer you must switch Nuevoplayer mode to "Flash+HTML5"
Other requirement is mobile video. Either default video must be mp4 container/h264 encoded with aac sound and baseline profile, or must be dedicated mp4 video for mobile (same type). Nuevoplayer configuration file searches for both.
In your case dedicated mobile video is not available, but those default mp4 videos I've seen seem to be fine for html5 playback.
Nuevoplayer automatically searches for browser's flash support first and if available plays flash.
When flash not supported code checks for "video" html5 tag support, and if found attempts to play html5 version of player.
I can see on your site that nuevoplayer is only in flash mode, this can be changed in configuration.

Of course I don't know what is your mobile device, don't know what is browser (not all browsers can play mp4 with html5 video tag)

But other thing is that from my point of view and location I see that your site is extremely slow with downloading video.
I don't know if this is sever or some configuration.
I can also confirm that also ftp connection is extremely slow, doesn't allow to work with files in rational and safe way.
Well, server was much faster few days ago but now it's terrible. Please note - this has nothing to scripts or other software installed. It's only server related. Enough is to try and download video from URL to see how slow it is. FTP file download speed is about 7-15 KB/s. That's very slow.
To compare: I have it about 400-600 kb/s, and from better location (west US) it's over 2 MB/s.
On such slow server you can't have big expectations, can't expect that everything will work as it should.

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#18 2013-09-26 01:05:09

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Re: Add fast forward thumbnails like xhamster.com

I do have it set to flash + html5. So i'm not sure why you are saying you can see its set to flash only mode.  Must be a configuration issue because these are the specs on my server. CSTM E3 1230v2+32GB Ram+2TB HD+Cpanel+Centos 6 64bit
I have a very fast server and everything should work perfect on it.  Can you give me details of what I should tell the server company to fix as far as configuration issues?

So what do I do to get mobile videos to work?

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#19 2013-09-26 01:17:01

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Re: Add fast forward thumbnails like xhamster.com

Just checked the average transfer speed of my server and it says  for this month the average transfer speed was 10.78Mb/s   So i'm not sure what it can be, but the server itself if good.

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#20 2013-09-26 01:52:08

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Re: Add fast forward thumbnails like xhamster.com

xpornclub wrote:

Just checked the average transfer speed of my server and it says  for this month the average transfer speed was 10.78Mb/s   So i'm not sure what it can be, but the server itself if good.

Sorry, but from my location it's very, very slow on each of several computers, also on my iPad/iPhone.
And rather my ISP gives very fast connection. I don't have a problem with most of other video sites.
Entire connection is slow. Browsing your files through ftp is also very slow.
But slowest is access to video file. Website html (probably cached) is opening much faster, but video access and streaming speed is disaster to me.
I'm located in Europe, but I do also have server in US and it's like 100 times faster than yours.
My European Hetzner server is even more faster.

Coming back to html5, I can see your player playing on my iPad/iPhone IOS and on Sony smartphone with Android,
so html5 player is properly configured and properly playing.

But your issue may also be because you try to access your website without "www" on mobile device.
Javascript is very restrictive and sites with/without "www" treats as 2 different domains.
Your site address in script is configured "with www", so when you open it "withourt www" javascript security rules do not allow to load content from other than original domain, and site with "www" treat as different domain. Player configuration cannot be opened, other XML as well.

This is something that every webmaster should know: website should be allowed to access as 1 address only.
Especially today, when Google is so restrictive and can treat website as duplicate, or at least divide website's power per 2 websites, lower search ranks a lot. There are thousands articles and examples how to do redirection from "no www" in website address to "with www" or opposite.

Last edited by Nuevolab (2013-09-26 02:00:57)

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#21 2013-09-26 01:59:23

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Re: Add fast forward thumbnails like xhamster.com

http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/#!/GSojP/www.xpornclub.com    see for yourself, my site if not the fastest out their but faster than most.  Something is wrong with you accessing my site.  If anyone else goes to my site can you please give me feedback also on the speed.

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#22 2013-09-26 02:01:49

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Re: Add fast forward thumbnails like xhamster.com

Try it now I increased the memory limit, maybe that will change something?

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#23 2013-09-26 02:20:27

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Re: Add fast forward thumbnails like xhamster.com

You were right about the www vs non www, it was causing problems for mobile, I will change the htaccess to redirect all to www

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#24 2013-09-26 02:31:01

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Re: Add fast forward thumbnails like xhamster.com

Sorry man, I'm only saying what I see on my side.
Website is loading not bad, but accessing video is almost impossible.
Let's say I can see entire website in 1 second about (even if i clear bowsre's cache)
But then i wait for video to appear for 20-40 seconds.
Even when it finally start to play, it's buffering all the time and always very long ime.
When I jump to new location (http pseudo streaming), again it's start loading for very long time.
Even when I saw your site first time, when it was playing with flow player, it was also slow to open video or jump to new time.

Well, this is one of slowest streaming I ever seen.
It's faster little bit (after peak hours), but still video access is slow.
Try to do test of page URL with video.

For me load time is over 10 seconds, though real load time is much longer.
Website home url is loading 1,5 sec.

Most of my sites are loading in 0.9-1.0 second.
Page with video - 1,4 sec.

You probably know that I've worked for thousands people, seen thousands servers.
Maybe it's not about entire server, but nginx only? Hard to say.

Last edited by Nuevolab (2013-09-26 02:32:03)

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#25 2013-09-26 02:39:35

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Re: Add fast forward thumbnails like xhamster.com

For me video play is instant, I want to get some other people to tell me what they think. From a lot of different locations.

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